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Jan 2, 2008

"It just (don't) works!" or "My Mac switch nightmare"

Gerry

UPDATE: Now with 100% more less follow up apology post!

With the exception of names and a raging boner, this is a 100% true story. I just wanted to get that out of the way now. I didn't want to preface my preface, as this is a long post already, but I really wanted to get this out there because it is a crime what apple is doing to their customers. And the worst part is half of them are so "Apple Happy" or just plain new to computers, they are completely oblivious and blind to what is going on. There is one must read section at the bottom I want everyone to read whether or not you read the entire story. It's horrible and I want people to know what Apple is doing. Without further ado, here's the rest of the story.

After much research and chatting with some friends of mine, last September I decided to purchase a Macbook Pro. I figured, Apple is supposed to use some high quality parts in their Macbook Pro line, plus I can run Vista (Yes Vista, I like it, Fuck you very much) with dx10 and even had the only laptop with a dx10 capable video card at the time. So I plunk down my (read: not mine) hard earned (read: given) 2500 bucks to purchase one. It comes in the mail. I'm as happy as a child receiving a video game on Christmas(capital C).

So I'm loving my new found freedom. I felt like bubble boy, having been giving a bubble suit to venture away from my bubble room for the first time. I could now compute anywhere, even on the can if I desired. I now had the ability to watch tv in my room (my house has only one cable outlet). I didn't have to sit in my room while working anymore. I could go downstairs and enjoy my nice tv, I could do work on the train, I was free from my shackles I called a desk.

Then I noticed it. My laptop wasn't sitting flat on the table. It was wobbling. I thought maybe there's something underneath it. I checked. Nope. I took a closer look at my laptop. The bottom casing was warped right around the dvd drive. I thought, oh, well I'll go down to the store and talk to them. I just got it two weeks ago, they should be able to replace it no problem.

I arrive at the Cambridge Side Apple store. I'd never been in an Apple store before. It felt.... creepy. People were enjoying themselves in a computer store, happily buying highly marked up products. The staff weren't 40 year old nothings. They were hip, trendy (cliche) people my age. They were designers, they were musicians, they were wanabes. Everything about them screamed, look at me, I'm hip and trendy with my apple computer. You can be too!

I skulk my way to the back, passing the tutors, passing the cinema displays, passing the mac fanboy on the floor with a raging boner who just creamed himself and passed out after finally getting his hands on an iphone. Ah the Mac Genius bar. They are geniusi, surely they could assist me. I walk up to this kid checking people in.

"Do you have an appointment"

I think to myself, what am I in the doctor's office? Then laugh thinking about my time as a computer repair tech and how much trouble doctors would get in if they repaired people while consuming alcohol.

"Umm no I don't," I replied.

"Well, your in luck, things are slow tonight, we can have Colin (That was probably not his name as I have forgotten what it was, I just replaced it with some random "trendy" name apple employee's are required to have) here assist you with your problem."

"Thank you."

Colin was a younger guy who was hiding his balding by shaving his head and growing out his beard. I never understood that. Hey look at me! I'm not bald, I just moved my hair to the jaw line region. Incidentally, Helen would have called him a pubic hair face. "Yo," He greeted me.

"Howdy (I'm from the south. Sometimes I like to wear that on my sleeve)"

"How can I help you tonight?"

I proceed to explain to him the issue of my warped casing citing I'm worried since it's around the dvd drive it might cause problems with dvd playback. Almost immediately, he cuts in.

"Well, I'll have to charge you for that repair. I have no way of telling if it's customer abuse or if it's our fault. That kind of repair runs about 400 dollars because we have to replace the whole bottom case."

"Don't I have a warranty to cover this kind of thing?" I did.

"Like I said, it's possible it's customer abuse. I'm not saying you aren't careful with your laptop," Yes you are I thought, "but I can't tell if you did this or not, so I can't cover it. Would you like to check it in with us today?"

"Well, I can't really afford that right now... and I don't have another computer to use. Being a graphic designer, it's kind of my life blood. I also don't really have that kind of money right now" I had just lost my job at Harmonix.

"I understand. I can't guarantee that price forever though. So you'll want to bring it back soon."

Woah wait huh!? Red flag. Can't Guarantee the price forever? Where the fuck am I? A gas station? Did George Bush buy Apple? I nod in agreement, pack my things, and leave.

The next day I contact Apple phone support.

"How may I help you today"

Wow these overseas Indian guys are mimicking the English language perfectly now! Oh wait, he's American. "Yeah, I went to the Apple store last night. I recently purchased a Macbook Pro and the casing is warped. I just noticed it a few nights ago. I went to the store and they told me it would cost 400 dollars to repair."

"That's interesting. According to my notes you are under warranty. While it is up to the store to decide how much to charge," Wait... run that by me again? Up to the store? "you are technically under warranty. I could send you a box and we could repair it for you through our repair service, free of charge."

"That would be great, but this is my only computer currently, how long would it take?"

"Seven days."

"Oh ouch.. well, I should have my desktop up and running again shortly. Can you please notate this conversation so when I call back, they will know it's a known issue and take care of it like you have?"

"Sure that wouldn't be a problem."

So I am content right now. I still have a warped laptop, but I can't do anything about it currently as I am looking for jobs and my desktop is on the fritz. Here's were the story gets really interesting.

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WARNING WARNING! BOSS APPROACHING! (read: the really interesting part. the must read is further down)

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So fast forward to two weeks ago. I come home from work for the Christmas holiday. I open my laptop. I start messing around. I notice there's a big piece of dust on the screen, I wipe it off. I continue messing around. I notice it's back. I wipe it again. Then I notice, wait, that's not on the screen. What the hell is this? It's under the screen. How the hell did that get in there? I call customer support...

"Hi, I have what appears to be a speck of dust on the inside of my screen."

"I'm sorry to hear that sir, I can schedule with a Mac Genius at the store and we can get that taken care of."

"Um, last time I went down there, they tried to charge me to repair my warped case, which is still under warranty I'd like to add."

"I assure you they won't do that sir. I'm putting notes in your account to attest to that and also noting for them to repair the case as I see notes in here on a previous conversation with us. You should be able to go down their and get your repairs done. If they have any problems, tell them to give us a call and we will explain the situation further to them."

"Ok thank you."

Back off to the store with me. This time equipped with backing from phone support. I arrive about 45 minutes early. This time they are a little busier, so I mosey on around the store for about 30 minutes, browsing the "already been out on pc for 10 months" aisle before they are ready to see me.

This time it's a lanky man named Christopher. Again with the "hip" attitude. Can't just be Chris? Why do you look like you recently went through an emo phase?

"What can I do for you today?"

"Hi, I just got off the phone with Apple tech. They sent me here to talk to you" I explained my problem to him.

"Oh that's a bubble under your screen. I'm going to have to ask you to remove the stickers from your laptop. Do you mind if I take it into the back?"

"Um sure why not."

This is where I wait for about 20 minutes for him to do whatever it is they do to mac's "in the back." I imagine him doing the hardware "from behind" because everyone knows how in love mac users are with their macs. If you don't believe, don't take my word for it, take his.

He comes back up front. "Well there are a couple of things I'd like to point out to you. There is a dent on the corner of the back of the LCD casing, and a ding on your ram panel." I was 100% sure those were not there when I came in. I'm a technophile and I take EXTREMELY good care of my tech. "It shouldn't be a problem, but I just have to note them."

"Oh, ok."

"Usually a repair on the LCD is 700 or 800 hundred dollars," good god fuck me shit mother fucker, "and another 200 for the case repair plus labor," 200? The last guy told me 400... something is fishy here, "but since it's under warranty, I'll give you a deal and do them both for 180 dollar and no labor fee."

DINGDINGDINGDINGWAAAAAHHHHOOOOOOO RED FLAG CENTRAL. Give me a deal? GIVE ME A DEAL!? It's under warranty. What kind of shit is he trying to pull? Give me a deal? Are you a used car salesman? When I worked in retail, I worked in retail in America. I'm sorry, but we can't work out deals on the company dime for corporate America. Shit is priced at what it's priced, or it comes out my paycheck.

"I just got off the phone with customer service and they said it would be free, and that if you had a problem with that to call them."

"I don't see those notes here, and I won't call them because they will just give me the same answer I gave you."

I told him I would return at another time to get the repairs done.

The next night I promptly call back phone support.

"Hi, thank you for calling Apple Tech support, how may I help you."

A girl? Interesting. "Yes, I'm calling about my Macbook-" I describe my issue and the problem I had the previous night at the store.

"That's awful. Let me review the notes real quick, may I put you on hold?"

"Sure"

She comes back ten minutes later, "Well since you said you spoke with customer service, I'm going to have to transfer you to our customer care line."

"Um, are you not customer service? This is the same number I called the other night."

"No we're tech support." Same god damned thing.

"Well, I'm sorry, I miss spoke. I thought it was the same thing. I spoke with tech support."

"Oh well I can I put you back on hold?" Another 5 minutes pass before she comes back. "Thank you for holding."

"Can I ask you something? Why did I buy an Apple product? Why did I spend 2500 dollars on an Apple product only to be treated like some Dell or Gateway customer."

"I'm sorry for your trouble sir, I'm transferring you to tier 2 service, but the wait time is about 2 hours, do you want to wait?"

"I have a 2500 dollar laptop that is new, warped and has a bad LCD, yeah, I got all day to wait."

I wait maybe 10 minutes before tier 2 comes on the line. The warning must have been a ploy to get me to give up. "Welcome to tier 2 may I help you?" Again I explain the situation. "Ok we're going to send you out a box overnight. Put your computer in the box and drop it off at a DHL location, it will have a return label on it. Give me a minute to go over the notes." He too disappears for 15 minutes. I'm talking to Chad online at this point giving him the blow by blow (read: not a sexual reference). He's wondering why, if they are sending me a box, does he need to disappear for so long to read notes? He comes back, explain the box thing to me again and sends me off. I'm frustrated, but content at this point.

Box comes in. Laptop goes out. Five days later, a day before the New Year, the laptop returns. I once again excitedly open it up and check it out. Most of the case is still the same. They couldn't be bothered to replace the dinged ram panel and the keyboard panel, but they did replace the rest of the bottom case. I boot up. Woah ho ho, brand new, no bubble LCD screen.

I boot up World of Warcrack (thanks Tomy and Phil for getting me back into that game... Assholes...) and play for awhile. I would like to note here, that the laptop is sitting on my desk with nothing obstructing the vent. After about two hours, the laptop abruptly shuts off.

"Umm... what the fuck"

Then I notice a sulfur smell. The smell of fried electronics, and it's strong.

"Holy fuck balls..."

The laptop won't turn on, the light on the charger is gone, the laptop is a paper weight... Two hours after the laptop is returned to me, it fries itself. I give up and go to bed. The next morning I try to turn it on... won't power up. I try a few more times 5 minutes later, it turns on, but the sulfur smell immediately returns. I call the phone lines, blah blah closed for New Years. I call the store, they are open! They schedule me for a 3:20 appointment at the Genius Bar.

I show up an hour early. Mistake. The kid in the back says they are swamped but he will check me in. I decide I can't spend an hour in there and start wondering around the mall. I have a sit at the bench and people watch. Boston has a lot of white people who adopt Asian children. Nothing wrong with that, just something I noticed. Also, I might be the only guy in the world that thinks winter clothes on women are cute.

I go back into the store 20 minutes before my "appointment" and wait. 3:20 rolls around and it's still not my turn. I talk to the girl checking people in, "Do you know when my turn is coming up?"

"Can I get your name"

"Gerry"

"Hmm you aren't checked in," I can't get a break... "but lemme do that for you real quick. There are three people in front of you so just hang out and we'll get to you shortly."

40 minutes later my name is called.

I won't bore you with another long conversation. I will say, this was an older gentleman and he was very sympathetic to my issue and was very nice about everything and was the best out of everyone I talked to. He took my laptop, check it in to be shipped out, apologized, said I should have my computer back in a week, and sent me on my way. I left happy with that experience. I was not happy with the others.

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THIS IS THE PART EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ!

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On my way home, I get a return call from a friend of mine who works at an apple store. He said he did some talking to the geniusi at his store and found out that my problems (the warp and the bubble) were known faults with the hardware... but Apple wasn't admitting them to the public. They were trying to nickle and dime customers for repairs citing abuse as the cause. This is WRONG! I understand you are a business, and it is a business of making money, but own up to your fucking mistakes. Don't fuck over your customers because you don't want to pay for the faulty hardware you produced.

With the exception of the last genius I met with in store this entire experience has left an EXTREMELY sour taste in my mouth. As it stands, I will no longer be dealing with Apple or purchasing anymore of their products, which is a shame because I was very interested in the iphone. What they are doing is CUSTOMER ABUSE. It's the old bait and switch, selling you a broken product and charging you to repair it. I really hope this happens upon an Apple employee. I apologize to you for the harsh language and rude criticism of your consumers. It's in good fun and for the entertainment of my readers. What is not in fun is this story is completely true as is the paragraph above and it is wrong. Fess up. Apologize to me and your other customers. It's the least you owe us. At least Microsoft was behind their product enough to admit there were issue with the xbox 360 and extended all warranties to 3 years. THAT is customer service. So, the ball is in your court Apple. How will you respond?

I would like to invite everyone to post their own experiences about this in the comment section.



9 comments:

Anonymous said...

it really sucks what happened to you but i had pretty good service from them on my part. i have a macbook, not the pro. it came with a broken keyboard. well, not broken but wasnt 100%. the A key had to be slammed to input as well as the delete key. i took it in one day, they said genuis bar was book for the next 3 days plus they had to order parts. so i came back 3 days later, they took it in the back, gave me an entire new keyboards and touchpad (i guess its all one piece) and they did it within an hour for free. all i told them was "my keyboard sucks." he tried it out n went "oh this does suck, well fix it for you"

Gerry said...

The biggest problem is there are other people on mac sites reporting this very same story. Apple is trying to pass the money they are losing from their fuck up onto us

Anonymous said...

apple likes to stay quiet. leopard had a huge dead keyboard bug too where powersave mode would kill your keyboard and it took 2 months for them to patch it. at first, i had no idea what was going on, but i checked forums and there were millions of complaints for it. i didnt have to go far to find an answer.

i think if they admit to their own fault, they will be forced to recall and lose money. i'm not saying i agree with you. i actually dont understand why their phone support and genius bar support arent syncing up. this is just how apple does their things. only thing ive bought from apple is a macbook and first gen ipod video x2. who doesnt own an ipod?

Gerry said...

I don't own an ipod

helen said...

i don't own an ipod

Anonymous said...

Err...
Well, I'm posting Anonymously as I have no wish to be Steved. I work in the same state as the store you've been going to - not at that store though. While there was an issue with MBP keyboards and Leopard, I have not seen any of the problems you describe. I'm not saying they don't exist, I just haven't seen them.
The CS store has very mixed reviews, and it seems luck of the draw whether you get good help or not. It shouldn't be like that.

What I'd like you to remember is that we are limited in what we can do. It is also fact that Cupertino often doesn't tell the floor workers everything. Managers have more power, more information, and more discretion to make you happy. Ask for the lead Genius and the manager on duty - and I guarantee you'll be made happy.

Signing this:
a 40 year old nothing. Not a hip, trendy (cliche) person your age. They were designers, they were musicians, - yep that's me.

Gerry said...

I have to say, Anonymous, I thank you for your refreshing look at this. I really appreciate when someone from the apple side can actually retort with something that isn't "hey you pc loving douche" and it's the ones like you that will be the subject of my next post (you should like it, trust me).

It's actually interesting, it was an older gentleman who was at the CS store Tuesday that finally gave me the service that people are always praising at the Apple store.

helen said...

I figured out why your Apple came back as a Crapple!!

They found out you installed VISTA on their mac


hahaahahaahhaah

Sean said...

Ah, Gerry... although you recommended the Powerbook to ME a while ago, I have not yet received a "God No Don't Do It" style notification from you... the disappointment...